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living money free
Wir haben kein Verteilungs-, sondern ein Kommunikationsproblem. Geld organisiert Kooperation durch Wettbewerb und künstlichen Mangel. Vertrauen in geld- und tauschfreie Netzwerke kann dieses angstbasierte System ergänzen bis ersetzen. Wir haben alles und wissen alles - gemeinsam. Es fehlen Kommunikationsformen, um die real beschränkren Resourcen kollaborativ und ohne Verschwendung oder gewaltsame Aneignung zu nutzen. Lasst sie uns gemeinsam herausfinden und ausprobieren: Play the World Peace Game, instead of the Money Game - cooperate budget-free.
69 year old lady lives money free since 15 years
excerpt from the debate about Heidemarie Schwermer.
these people have a personality disorder called ‘schizoid’. This is no way to live – it is neither prestigious or altruistic.
it sounds like this woman must be very sociable person who survives on interactions and transactions with other humans. Schizoid personality disorder, whilst associated with eccentricity is characterised by an avoidance and lack of interest in personal relationships.
She has a job where she works closely and socially with other people, stays in their homes, etc. A schizoid does everything to avoid these sorts of relationships others.
we could all learn a little from them! those personality-less people are some of the warmest. you should read up and Deleuze & Guattari’s ideas about the schizophrenic!
Humans for most of human presence have been couch surfers? This woman has children. If she doesn’t want to live alone, why not live with her own family?
Money is not evil, and abstaining from it is no virtue. It is simply a means of quantifying the value of goods and services, so that exchanges may be more precise. She’s still exchanging goods and services, so what’s the point of avoiding money?
sounds like a good gig if you don’t mind living at the mercy of others. she is not spending any of her money, although other peoples money is certainly being spent. having a healthy body is helpful as well, injury or disease would cause major disruption and require others to care for and spend their money to save you as well. the books should be called bartering and living on other peoples money. happily.
beautiful lady, wonderful concept AND she IS living with money: someone else’s of course. The concept of living basically without attachment with no possessions is a beautiful way to live without the distractions of money, spending, consuming ect. It’s a start.
The article says she started an association where all the members barter with each other to trade goods & skills. they don’t exchange $$ for their needs. There’s a shot of her taking the train, not flying- to visit her grand kids. Sure, maybe her family paid for the ticket, but families do that for each other all the time anyway. I think she lives a very simple life and doesn’t need much material ‘stuff’. Others can’t believe she lives without – because they think they can’t live without ‘things’.
The article didn’t say she found acquiring possessions to be exclusive to happy/healthy, it said that she found that *accumulating* them is. The word choice was hers, indicating that at least in her frame of reference, it was true that she was accumulating things at the expense of her happiness, in other words compensating, and we’re certainly encouraged to do so by the mass media as well as social, cultural, and logistical obstacles. Many ecologically minded people “accumulate” a car for instance, even if they don’t want to. It’s difficult to change from that mindframe though and still live within the economic system, but she shows at least that in her situation it was successful.
It doesn’t make you a bad person to survive in other systems, that’s what most human beings’ priorities are after all. Her life’s work is a neat, working idea that made lots of people happy. It’s not an ideology itself, but it could make your own personal ideology change for the better.
maybe its just me, but i like the idea of being able to retire and settle down with the money i earn. Looks like that might not be an option here. She might have a different opinion when shes 80 still doing choirs for dinner.
Moneyless Living (theory & practice)
Further discussion constantly takes place at this public class.
i decided to live without money five years ago. I experienced that it was not true for the whole time as I could not deny every offer by my social environment, so I lived without money but others payed. Honestly it very much depends and how much effort you put into money free organization of stuff -there are plenty of opportunities but they take time. Recently a was forced to retreat from my pure money free living to go to the dentist and borrowed the money. So if you decide to go money free also make sure the be debt free!
to get to the point, where we can live without any indirect involvement in money transactions, will require coordination with others who still choose to use money in their relations with other people...
by not accepting (and passing on) any money myself, i make a clear statement that i want to cooperate, share and help but without use of any money! also not asking money from others contributes to removing a demand for it, demand which creates this illusion of money having some value ...
talking about dentist - people at this organization help illegalized people to have free treatments: medibuero.de
I was thinking that starting from the idea of "moneyless living" we could give one more step and think of something like "exchangeless living." For me the problem is not money, but the logic that is behind it, which I think is the logic of exchange. Some months ago I wrote a text about this, called "In the 'only if' society".
In this anonymised reflection of the discussion the diverse egos sound like a 'we' speaking with one voice complementing each other. This is the basic principle of non informal collaboration networks without the need of a predefined identity.
My personal conclusion from all the experiences of the last 5 years is to dedicate my time and abilites to participate building a so called Global Village Construction Set together with people from the Global Ecology Network to achieve practical post scarcity
together we know everything
This is the motto of the p2pfoundation regarding education, please see the collection of information resources on the shareconomy network also.
July 2011: google closed dmoz (all news about dmoz)
"Open data, publicly accessible data that is usually released by government institutions, can provide answers to such questions – if the data can be found and analysed. This is where Google's updated Public Data Explorer hopes to help. The tool for visualising political, economic and social data from numerous countries now gives access to about 50 databases, many of which provide multiple datasets – the World Bank's "World Development Indicators", for instance, provide numerous statistics on the economic, environmental and health development levels in more than 200 countries. Eurostat datasets give access to specific information on the EU countries. All of this data can easily be visualised as time series or in its geographic context." (the H)
14 December 2011: Wikimedia testing visual editor "The Wikimedia Foundation is calling on users to test a first prototype of a visual editor for Wikipedia. The development of an editor for directly editing formatted Wikipedia articles is a high-priority project that is designed to make it easier for new Wikipedia contributors. The Wikimedia Foundation hopes that this measure will help to counteract the decreasing number of contributors." (The H)
13th Dec 2011: Public discussion for Creative Commons 4.0 begins
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